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		<title>Comment on inevitable slide into gas? by UK is facing electricity shortage &#171; carbon limited</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2012/05/03/inevitable-slide-into-gas/#comment-1804</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UK is facing electricity shortage &#171; carbon limited]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 07:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a subsequent comment, Mel Starrs asked me for my sources. It&#8217;s such an important fact, I think it&#8217;s worth fleshing [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a subsequent comment, Mel Starrs asked me for my sources. It&#8217;s such an important fact, I think it&#8217;s worth fleshing [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on inevitable slide into gas? by UK is facing electricity shortage &#171; carbon limited</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2012/05/03/inevitable-slide-into-gas/#comment-1803</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UK is facing electricity shortage &#171; carbon limited]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 07:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Comments        &#171; inevitable slide into&#160;gas? [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on how did Green Deal lose its way? by biffvernon</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2012/04/19/how-did-green-deal-lose-its-way/#comment-1794</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[biffvernon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 19:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like another part of the omnishambles - and that&#039;s before we consider that the Green Deal is not designed to cut carbon emissions at all.  See http://www.greendeallouth.org.uk/GDL07.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like another part of the omnishambles &#8211; and that&#8217;s before we consider that the Green Deal is not designed to cut carbon emissions at all.  See <a href="http://www.greendeallouth.org.uk/GDL07.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.greendeallouth.org.uk/GDL07.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on how did Green Deal lose its way? by Casey Cole</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2012/04/19/how-did-green-deal-lose-its-way/#comment-1793</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Casey Cole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 13:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Linn,
My point wasn&#039;t that SWI was out in particular but rather that the level of comprehensive refurbishment needed to strip the carbon out of existing stock isn&#039;t viable using GD economics and sticking to the golden rule.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Linn,<br />
My point wasn&#8217;t that SWI was out in particular but rather that the level of comprehensive refurbishment needed to strip the carbon out of existing stock isn&#8217;t viable using GD economics and sticking to the golden rule.</p>
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		<title>Comment on how did Green Deal lose its way? by Linn Rafferty (@linniR)</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2012/04/19/how-did-green-deal-lose-its-way/#comment-1792</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Linn Rafferty (@linniR)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 10:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Casey, agree that ideally we would have more incentives, compulsory obligation and energy taxes for people to be encouraged.. but that is not this government&#039;s way; look at how they instantly dropped consequential improvements when challenged by the press!
Instead, offering the carrot initially is an approach that can underpin further &#039;stick&#039; approaches later.
Oh and please stop saying that SWI is &#039;out&#039; it most definitely is not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casey, agree that ideally we would have more incentives, compulsory obligation and energy taxes for people to be encouraged.. but that is not this government&#8217;s way; look at how they instantly dropped consequential improvements when challenged by the press!<br />
Instead, offering the carrot initially is an approach that can underpin further &#8216;stick&#8217; approaches later.<br />
Oh and please stop saying that SWI is &#8216;out&#8217; it most definitely is not.</p>
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		<title>Comment on inevitable slide into gas? by melstarrs</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2012/05/03/inevitable-slide-into-gas/#comment-1791</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[melstarrs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 13:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been reading and re-reading policy and strategy documents in the last few weeks, to inform any response I make to the Heat Strategy doc. Your post above has confirmed in a nutshell where I think we&#039;re heading - nuclear isn&#039;t fast enough (no need for me to get off that particular fence at the minute), CCS for coal isn&#039;t happening anytime fast either.

BTW, can you link to a source for &quot;quarter and a third of current UK electricity generation capacity will come offline by the end of the decade&quot; - I don&#039;t doubt you but I&#039;m nosy :-)

Keeping the lights on will politically trump any &#039;legally binding targets&#039; - keep an eye out for gov&#039;t redefining what constitutes 80% by 2050 (zero carbon by 2016 - I&#039;m looking at you). 

What concerns me even more is that by 2030 we&#039;re looking at another massive increase in capacity required if we&#039;re decarbonising heating at a local level. It all feels rather shaky now we&#039;re starting to unravel the reality of the targets.

Perhaps we should take some comfort from Lovelock&#039;s admitting he might have been &#039;alarmist&#039;? http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/23/11144098-gaia-scientist-james-lovelock-i-was-alarmist-about-climate-change?lite

(And that comment was too long for 140 ch too - but of course I will tweet the blogpost and comment now :-))]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading and re-reading policy and strategy documents in the last few weeks, to inform any response I make to the Heat Strategy doc. Your post above has confirmed in a nutshell where I think we&#8217;re heading &#8211; nuclear isn&#8217;t fast enough (no need for me to get off that particular fence at the minute), CCS for coal isn&#8217;t happening anytime fast either.</p>
<p>BTW, can you link to a source for &#8220;quarter and a third of current UK electricity generation capacity will come offline by the end of the decade&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t doubt you but I&#8217;m nosy <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Keeping the lights on will politically trump any &#8216;legally binding targets&#8217; &#8211; keep an eye out for gov&#8217;t redefining what constitutes 80% by 2050 (zero carbon by 2016 &#8211; I&#8217;m looking at you). </p>
<p>What concerns me even more is that by 2030 we&#8217;re looking at another massive increase in capacity required if we&#8217;re decarbonising heating at a local level. It all feels rather shaky now we&#8217;re starting to unravel the reality of the targets.</p>
<p>Perhaps we should take some comfort from Lovelock&#8217;s admitting he might have been &#8216;alarmist&#8217;? <a href="http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/23/11144098-gaia-scientist-james-lovelock-i-was-alarmist-about-climate-change?lite" rel="nofollow">http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/23/11144098-gaia-scientist-james-lovelock-i-was-alarmist-about-climate-change?lite</a></p>
<p>(And that comment was too long for 140 ch too &#8211; but of course I will tweet the blogpost and comment now <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>Comment on how did Green Deal lose its way? by Sofie Pelsmakers</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2012/04/19/how-did-green-deal-lose-its-way/#comment-1787</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sofie Pelsmakers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Casey, 

SWI may be funded through ECO part (HTT properties)  - but again contentious and unclear how the mechanism will work. (For all HTT regardless of income as proposed now? &gt;&gt;&gt; heavily criticized as ultimately giving money to well-off rather than the fuelpoor)

Crucially, there is too much hassle involved with too few (early adopter?) incentives, no compulsory obligation and no energy taxes for people to be encouraged to take up the Green Deal; and as you write that is even before we look at the Golden Rule, use of SAP, accreditation etc. Interestingly the MORI &#039; Big Energy Shift poll&#039; found that the people questioned thought some compulsory element should kick in after a certain time. 

Sofie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casey, </p>
<p>SWI may be funded through ECO part (HTT properties)  &#8211; but again contentious and unclear how the mechanism will work. (For all HTT regardless of income as proposed now? &gt;&gt;&gt; heavily criticized as ultimately giving money to well-off rather than the fuelpoor)</p>
<p>Crucially, there is too much hassle involved with too few (early adopter?) incentives, no compulsory obligation and no energy taxes for people to be encouraged to take up the Green Deal; and as you write that is even before we look at the Golden Rule, use of SAP, accreditation etc. Interestingly the MORI &#8216; Big Energy Shift poll&#8217; found that the people questioned thought some compulsory element should kick in after a certain time. </p>
<p>Sofie</p>
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		<title>Comment on how did Green Deal lose its way? by Casey Cole</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2012/04/19/how-did-green-deal-lose-its-way/#comment-1785</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Casey Cole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Mark. And thanks for going old school with the comment vs. tweeting!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mark. And thanks for going old school with the comment vs. tweeting!</p>
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		<title>Comment on how did Green Deal lose its way? by Mark Brinkley</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2012/04/19/how-did-green-deal-lose-its-way/#comment-1784</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Brinkley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Casey,

That&#039;s a brilliant piece. Green Deal in a nutshell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casey,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a brilliant piece. Green Deal in a nutshell.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Climate Act requires all homes built after 1917 to go zero carbon by how did Green Deal lose its way? &#171; carbon limited</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2009/02/02/climate-act-requires-all-homes-built-after-1917-to-go-zero-carbon/#comment-1783</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[how did Green Deal lose its way? &#171; carbon limited]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 07:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the midst of all this noise, we failed to grasp a crucial fact: Green Deal won&#8217;t deliver the carbon cuts we need from existing stock. Not even close. While we&#8217;re busy arguing about stealth taxes, cowboy salesmen and mobilising [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the midst of all this noise, we failed to grasp a crucial fact: Green Deal won&#8217;t deliver the carbon cuts we need from existing stock. Not even close. While we&#8217;re busy arguing about stealth taxes, cowboy salesmen and mobilising [...]</p>
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