Comments on: heat meters are a no-brainer

By: Edward Devoy

Edward Devoy — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:21:35 +0000

More about the crooks at Barnsley MBC, despite claims that the new wood burning boiler at Milefield Estate at Grimethorpe Nr Barnsley uses the cheapest fuel, Barnsley MBC are putting up the cost per KW/h to 8.5.
Rotherham council recover all costs a5t 3.4 pence per KW/h

Prior to the meters being imposed the tenants paid a flat rate of £12.06 which BMBC claim hasn’t gone up since 2002/3 and will have to be increased to over £15.00.
Norwich have increased their price in 2007/8 to £6.49.

Just one question to Dick Bradford and all at BMBC, why does it cost barnsley tenants more than twice as much for the same service?

By: Edward Devoy

Edward Devoy — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:10:44 +0000

Sorry to go on about BMBC but these people are nothing but liars and thieves, much like the rest of their party who compose the current Government.
I believe that when Dick Bradford made his derogatory remarks about the people on district heating systems who because they pay a fixed weekly amount for their heating, cannot control their heating without a financial penalty sorry incentive, was actually referring to council office staff who receive their heating totally free and who are probably the ones who open the windows because they cannot be bothered to regulate the heating and who have no financial penalty sorry again, incentive to do so.
Again all they wish to do is create problems where no problem exists.
Not happy with the people on district heating paying for the cost of the heat, they want to penalise them by basing costs of what other people pay regardless of the cost of delivering the heat and therefore make people pay more and more for less and less whilst they reap the profit.
Nothing at all to do with carbon emmissions. Just legalised theft.

By: Edward Devoy

Edward Devoy — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:39:51 +0000

On the subject of carbon emmissions and any other emmissions I am all for reducing them, but when we have a situation where a company that produces no emmissions can sell the right to produce emmissions to another company that produces loads of emmissions, this just makes a mockery of the whole system.
Also harping back to Dick Bradford and his ilk at Barnsley MBC they are only replacing coal busrning boilers with wood burning boilers, not because they produce less carbon emmissions but because they get these boilers free or heavily subsidised through Government schemes.

By: Edward Devoy

Edward Devoy — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:00:01 +0000

The trouble with these local authority apparatchiks like Dick Bradford is that they will let their mouths say anything.
They also think that everyone else has the same mentality that they do.
I am on a district heating system and if it is too warm I regulate the heat firstly with the thermostats on my radiators and if it is still too hot I turn the radiators off.
The fitting of heat meters is just a punishment on consumers.
And the ridiculous statement that they will use less heat if they have to pay for it is stupid beyond belief. The only reason they would use less heat would be fear of being unable to pay the bill.
I pay a weekly amount and can if required use my heating 24/7, but I don’t, I use it when it is necessary. and to claim that because I pay a fixed amount weekly that I don’t pay for the energy I use is insulting to say the least. Everyone on our system is elderly or infirmed and some require heat 24/7 the rest of us who don’t subsidise those that do, and are happy to do so, in the knowledge that when our time comes to need the heat 24/7 there will be no financial penalty to do so. I can also add that BMBC make somewhere between £30,000 to £40,000 surplus so to say we are not paying for the energy used is a misnomer to say the least.

By: David Phillips

David Phillips — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:45:40 +0000

Try Switch2 energy solutions. They have a prepayment option and have supplied EDF with heat meters.
Contact me if unsure.

David P

By: Casey Cole

Casey Cole — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:47:27 +0000

Hi Bernie,

Just to confirm, your developer uses EDF for heat meters?

By: Bernie McCullagh

Bernie McCullagh — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:36:23 +0000

We are just about to invest in a new build block of flats with a centralised gas heating system, with individual pre-payment heat meters for the occupiers. The developer usually uses EDF Energy as a supplier, have you got any recommendations about which supplier(s) offers the best rates for these types of heating systems?

By: Louise Mason-Crowe

Louise Mason-Crowe — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:03:24 +0000

Im looking into this for my organisation which is a housing association managing a stock of 11,000 in the north east. I was wondering if you have information on the costing you detailed (200 for the meter & 50-60 for the management of the units & who suplied these?

By: Casey

Casey — Thu, 01 May 2008 09:23:55 +0000

Having looked into this further, I suspect that a fair chunk of Dick’s savings is attributable to improvements in boiler efficiency. For now, I’m using 30% as a ballpark estimate of consumption drop following installation of heat meters but will update when I have firm numbers.

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