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	<title>Comments on: what air-tightness required for MVHR?</title>
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		<title>By: sunnyboydevlin</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2007/07/04/what-air-tightness-required-for-mvhr/#comment-248</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coming back to this, some time on, I was wondering whether your SAP calcs took into account the energy saved potential (for box 95) from accredited HRV systems, as covered in SAP Appendix Q?

Basically, this is a function to incorporate improved spf and heat exchanger efficiencies for hrv systems that perform better than the SAP default of 2w/l and 65% recovery.

I was looking at this for a project and for example the using the appendix q spreadsheet and the data for the greenwood airvac mvhr 90, with a spf of 0.77 and recovery of 80%, the reductions to the predicted electrical use are approximately 50%.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming back to this, some time on, I was wondering whether your SAP calcs took into account the energy saved potential (for box 95) from accredited HRV systems, as covered in SAP Appendix Q?</p>
<p>Basically, this is a function to incorporate improved spf and heat exchanger efficiencies for hrv systems that perform better than the SAP default of 2w/l and 65% recovery.</p>
<p>I was looking at this for a project and for example the using the appendix q spreadsheet and the data for the greenwood airvac mvhr 90, with a spf of 0.77 and recovery of 80%, the reductions to the predicted electrical use are approximately 50%.</p>
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		<title>By: sunnyboydevlin</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2007/07/04/what-air-tightness-required-for-mvhr/#comment-252</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kinda feel like the punch line may have lost its&#039; weight now; but anyway,

option one, was install the HRV and accept the extra cost for this and the extra PV required to offset the electricity use, or two don&#039;t bother and accept Code Level 5 as Level 6 is a mythical crock. Certainly from what I have seen, the stamp duty exemption doesnt seem to be enough to cover the costs to meet the treasury and/or Code requirements for true zero carbon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kinda feel like the punch line may have lost its&#8217; weight now; but anyway,</p>
<p>option one, was install the HRV and accept the extra cost for this and the extra PV required to offset the electricity use, or two don&#8217;t bother and accept Code Level 5 as Level 6 is a mythical crock. Certainly from what I have seen, the stamp duty exemption doesnt seem to be enough to cover the costs to meet the treasury and/or Code requirements for true zero carbon.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2007/07/04/what-air-tightness-required-for-mvhr/#comment-251</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mate, you&#039;ve left us hanging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mate, you&#8217;ve left us hanging.</p>
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		<title>By: sunnyboydevlin</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2007/07/04/what-air-tightness-required-for-mvhr/#comment-250</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wheres the rest of my erudite and informative post gone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wheres the rest of my erudite and informative post gone?</p>
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		<title>By: sunnyboydevlin</title>
		<link>http://carbonlimited.org/2007/07/04/what-air-tightness-required-for-mvhr/#comment-249</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are some other issues at stake here. I was recently looking to take a clients scheme from Code for Sustainable Homes Level 5 to 6, which requires you to achieve their defintition of true zero carbon AND have an HLP of less than 0.8w/m2.

What was interesting was that for these dwellings, 5no. terrraced units, (3 mid, 2 end of..) with U-values throughout of 0.12-0.14 and glazing at 0.7-0.8, it was still necessary to include MVHR in the SAP to acheive the HLP requirements. But of course, this pushes the DER up, due to increased electricity consumption. This was in turn made even worse by the fact that the heat source being offset by the HRV was biomass.

So all in all, it didn&#039;t make financial or even practical sense. It was Hobsons choice to achieve Code Level 6: Include HRV to achieve the HLP]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some other issues at stake here. I was recently looking to take a clients scheme from Code for Sustainable Homes Level 5 to 6, which requires you to achieve their defintition of true zero carbon AND have an HLP of less than 0.8w/m2.</p>
<p>What was interesting was that for these dwellings, 5no. terrraced units, (3 mid, 2 end of..) with U-values throughout of 0.12-0.14 and glazing at 0.7-0.8, it was still necessary to include MVHR in the SAP to acheive the HLP requirements. But of course, this pushes the DER up, due to increased electricity consumption. This was in turn made even worse by the fact that the heat source being offset by the HRV was biomass.</p>
<p>So all in all, it didn&#8217;t make financial or even practical sense. It was Hobsons choice to achieve Code Level 6: Include HRV to achieve the HLP</p>
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